Comments on: Check: Demoing Product at BarCamp? http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/ On Indian industry and ambitions! Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:32:04 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Piyush Gupta http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/#comment-4161 Piyush Gupta Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:32:18 +0000 http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/#comment-4161 Dear Vijay, We presented RouteGuru at Proto. I was the third limb who took quite a few many permissions throughout to be with my team :). This information should help. Dear Vijay,
We presented RouteGuru at Proto. I was the third limb who took quite a few many permissions throughout to be with my team :) . This information should help.

]]> By: Vijay http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/#comment-4160 Vijay Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:19:28 +0000 http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/#comment-4160 "We did present at Proto as well." - Did you? And from what I could gather from the Investors collective at BCB4, it was about stock market and MF investments, not venture investments. “We did present at Proto as well.” – Did you?

And from what I could gather from the Investors collective at BCB4, it was about stock market and MF investments, not venture investments.

]]> By: Aditya http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/#comment-4102 Aditya Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:38:12 +0000 http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/#comment-4102 About L22 Vs audi and the Prof vs actual start-up guys We started the start-up collective on day 1 at L22. It overflowed and we immediately moved to the audi and stopped the unband. That session was extended at the request of audience upto lunch. There were questions on VC and one of the VCs spoke a lot and we asked him to slot his own session. Due to the extension to Prof Kumar we were eating into the time for sloka, picsquare etc. So we initiated a parallel session at L22 where these guys did speak. We announced it in the audi and almost half the people moved to L22. I'm sorry that I didn't get the message across to you. "At the end of the day the participants decide." If a organiser responds with this comment, its the opportunity for a participant to show what participants want. All it takes is a show of hands! The most heartening sight for me at BCB4 was people discussing things in a self governed manner in corridors, lawns etc. Should have seen the gaming collective where everyone stood for the entire duration right outside the audi and each one just talked for 6 mins each! It reminded me that BarCamp is about the desire to discuss and learn from each other. It makes the constraints of infrastructure trivial and it did. We have taken notes ourselves and continue to do so through blogs and comments. We'll surely improve the next time. The basic tradeoff is to meet expectations of as many as possible with limited infra and our limited legwork etc. We hope to hear from as many people as possible and make this into our conversation and our event. Thanks for this post and the comments. Would love to hear more. About L22 Vs audi and the Prof vs actual start-up guys
We started the start-up collective on day 1 at L22. It overflowed and we immediately moved to the audi and stopped the unband. That session was extended at the request of audience upto lunch. There were questions on VC and one of the VCs spoke a lot and we asked him to slot his own session. Due to the extension to Prof Kumar we were eating into the time for sloka, picsquare etc. So we initiated a parallel session at L22 where these guys did speak. We announced it in the audi and almost half the people moved to L22. I’m sorry that I didn’t get the message across to you.

“At the end of the day the participants decide.” If a organiser responds with this comment, its the opportunity for a participant to show what participants want. All it takes is a show of hands!

The most heartening sight for me at BCB4 was people discussing things in a self governed manner in corridors, lawns etc. Should have seen the gaming collective where everyone stood for the entire duration right outside the audi and each one just talked for 6 mins each! It reminded me that BarCamp is about the desire to discuss and learn from each other. It makes the constraints of infrastructure trivial and it did.

We have taken notes ourselves and continue to do so through blogs and comments. We’ll surely improve the next time. The basic tradeoff is to meet expectations of as many as possible with limited infra and our limited legwork etc. We hope to hear from as many people as possible and make this into our conversation and our event. Thanks for this post and the comments. Would love to hear more.

]]> By: BCB 5 over BCB 4 - What can be better by Living Life http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/#comment-4081 BCB 5 over BCB 4 - What can be better by Living Life Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:00:14 +0000 http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/#comment-4081 [...] While Barcamp itself was successful, this being the biggest Barcamp ever, in the world; there was discontentment and a longing for improvement in the next iteration of the event (which by the way has been [...] [...] While Barcamp itself was successful, this being the biggest Barcamp ever, in the world; there was discontentment and a longing for improvement in the next iteration of the event (which by the way has been [...]

]]> By: PG http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/#comment-4071 PG Wed, 01 Aug 2007 06:37:59 +0000 http://silicontryst.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/caution-demoing-product-at-barcamp/#comment-4071 Dear VK If a presenter can't respond to a situation that could probably mean ... that could be several many reasons. Don't make the statements so absolute friend. If sleeping people & such problems are the problems of un-conference then why unconference? Why not a conference? However, what you say seems to fit true in conference context not unconference. If nothing works, start a discussion ... that is definitely a cool & valuable feedback; will definitely keep in mind for next time. I don't know if you attended the talks by Mapunity & Vijay Anand second day, you should have realized that interest in investment and Market did enjoy huge attention. May be I'm not the correct person to evaluate the improvement since last Barcamp as I was absent, thus, all I have been able to relate is to Barcamp2, where you seem to be absent. I'm definitely not biased by presenter's perspective but just wanted to caution other presenters about the situation, even if there's a single one among the crowd. Dear Jayanth Man! Please do not get misdirected with the words, none was the target. I only intended to bring the awareness that too for the presenters (especially startup guys) about what to expect while planning their demo. And like Vivek Khurana pointed out, we as presenters have to learn about changing our style on-the-fly. And about uncomfortability, I noticed some foreigners getting really uncomfortable in L22 room and struggling to either get out of the room or to see the face od the presenter. May be it doesn't stand good to be generalized but yes it was one of the observations. To All If I say X is good, there is high probability that many of you will term X as bad, and some may also term as X as good or neither good nor bad. It am sure goes relative to the observer, therefore, try to avoid any specific conflicts and try to find the essence of all the talk. I'd consider that as a constructive discussion rather than being argumentative over that I said this and you said that. Dear VK
If a presenter can’t respond to a situation that could probably mean … that could be several many reasons. Don’t make the statements so absolute friend.

If sleeping people & such problems are the problems of un-conference then why unconference? Why not a conference? However, what you say seems to fit true in conference context not unconference.

If nothing works, start a discussion … that is definitely a cool & valuable feedback; will definitely keep in mind for next time.

I don’t know if you attended the talks by Mapunity & Vijay Anand second day, you should have realized that interest in investment and Market did enjoy huge attention.

May be I’m not the correct person to evaluate the improvement since last Barcamp as I was absent, thus, all I have been able to relate is to Barcamp2, where you seem to be absent. I’m definitely not biased by presenter’s perspective but just wanted to caution other presenters about the situation, even if there’s a single one among the crowd.

Dear Jayanth
Man! Please do not get misdirected with the words, none was the target. I only intended to bring the awareness that too for the presenters (especially startup guys) about what to expect while planning their demo. And like Vivek Khurana pointed out, we as presenters have to learn about changing our style on-the-fly.

And about uncomfortability, I noticed some foreigners getting really uncomfortable in L22 room and struggling to either get out of the room or to see the face od the presenter. May be it doesn’t stand good to be generalized but yes it was one of the observations.

To All
If I say X is good, there is high probability that many of you will term X as bad, and some may also term as X as good or neither good nor bad. It am sure goes relative to the observer, therefore, try to avoid any specific conflicts and try to find the essence of all the talk. I’d consider that as a constructive discussion rather than being argumentative over that I said this and you said that.

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